Do you agree with !'s rerating?

[Lobster Jesus]

So to those who haven't heard by now, ! will be an 11 instead of a 12 in ITG3. Do you think it should stay a 12 or that it should be changed to an 11?

I personally think it should be a 12. It was one of the later upper level songs I passed. I came closer to passing Go 60 Go and VerTex Experts on my first tries than !.
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[CHUCK BASS]

Is there like a list of the reratings I can see?

[#Infinity]

[CHUCK BASS]

Heres how I see it.

I get drained easier from July than Bang.

BUT

I get the rythms easier on Bang than July.

I say 11.5!

End of story.

[Boochypa]

! is hard, but it's hard for completely different reasons than almost any other chart.

It isn't particularly tiring, and it doesn't require much footspeed. Those are the difficulty elements that the vast majority of songs contain.

Instead, ! has a lot of hands, 24th bursts, and awkward turns to make it more tricky than "hard."

Because !'s difficulty comes from different sources, it's hard to compare it to other charts and give it a rating. I think it could go as a tough 11 or an easy 12, and if ratings are meant to show how hard a song is to pass, shouldn't we always pick the higher one if it's questionable?
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Team Cheaters

[CHUCK BASS]

[Lobster Jesus]

[CHUCK BASS]

[Lobster Jesus]

I think Bloodrush should be a 12 also. It's 16th runs don't really seem as 13 worthy as Summer, they're also not as fast, and if you can play flatfooted, it's really not too bad (yes it is stamina draining, but not OMG STAMINA draining). The only parts that seem tricky in it are the holds with 8ths, since they're really bizarre crossovers.
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[videoCWK!]

[#Infinity]

Yeah, I don't find Bloodrush to be that bad either, except for those stupid hold with crossovers that require the most awkward footwork. That's the reason why it's so close to deserving to be a 13, and it's pretty much always the place where I end up failing the song. Then again, it just doesn't stack up to the other 13's, as even Summer ~Speedy Mix~ requires a whole lot of footspeed and leg strength to keep up with, despite being easier than VerTex^2 and Pandemonium.

The footspeed and stamina requirements of Summer ~Speedy Mix~ are far too high to really make it deserve to be a 12, and since pretty much everyone hates the idea of changing it, I highly doubt it's going to be a 12 in ITG 3, anyway.
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[Tyrgannus]

D-Code makes sense, it really does.

! is controversial. I'm cool either way

Summer is the easiest 13 to date, true, but it is noticeably harder than the 12s. Keep it a 13.

Bloodrush is easier to score than Euphoria and Determinator and easier to pass than Summer by a longshot. Keep it a 12.
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AA Bob wrote:

Summer is as much of a 12 as PSMO is a 9.

[videoCWK!]

Knowing RoXoR, they might keep it a 13. They listen to their fanbase.

[Paranoia_Brother]

I honestly think that all this commotion about people spreading "rumors" about Summer ~speedy mix~ becoming a 12 is absurd.

How about we not listen to "rumors" and let things happen as they will.
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*Formerly known as That DDR guy at Gr. Lakes*

[IHYD.Blake]

Summer is harder than Bloodrush, and Bloodrush is supposed to be the hardest 12...
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[J. S. Mill]

Euphoria is the harderst 12. Bloodrush is third.

Someone please tell me they are re-rating Charlene.
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[Emptyeye]

[Da Bar]

[TRPX_Mudkip]

Bang! is good where it is, and re-rating it down is just bad for the song itself.

I think PA Theme should be re-rated to a 14.
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[DAF]