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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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AJAX the Insomniac
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SoymilkCharlie wrote:
I assume you're building it in your garage or something then? E15.gif


Basement. Its like 26ft long or something like that I have plenty of room to build this thing.

Then when I'm done, I'm going to build a stepmania machine, and put it in this lounge place at my school (they have a big projector screen E1.gif

Then during the school year, I'm going to charge like 50 cents to play.

(This way, in 2 years after I graduate, I have an excuse to go back to the school because I have to take care of the machine. E13.gif )
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Now Instead of making the stealth pad, I'm probably going to just combine every pad design I can find into an easier-to-make pad as a USB.
(Btw, would a usb work on an xbox 360?)

I'll try to record everything I do down on paper, and on my camera.

(Oh and I changed my name from Alex Krad to "AJAX." just in case you were thinking "wtf where did this guy come from?")
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An XBox 360 pad will typically work as a USB pad, but the opposite is not true. Although I can't see why you'd need a 360 pad if you have a USB pad and a good computer with all your fav songs on it.
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Well, for awhile now I have been surely decided on building a full sized ITG-based homebrew, but now I am second guessing myself and leaning back towards just getting a 3" Blueshark and building my own bar.. anyone want to give me some help here?

Which would give the closest to the arcade feel? I planned on building a pad 3" thick, ITG style arrows, cold cathode lighting, etc... but now I don't know.
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I'd say go for a homebrew if you want it to be as close as possible. However, know that it will take a lot of time and effort to get it perfect. Also, it could wind up being more expensive it you really want it as authentic as possible. It really depends on how much skill, experience, and access you have the the proper hand tools. For instance, if you want to have a really good bar, you're going to need tools and experience in welding or a really good design.
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SoymilkCharlie wrote:
I'd say go for a homebrew if you want it to be as close as possible. However, know that it will take a lot of time and effort to get it perfect. Also, it could wind up being more expensive it you really want it as authentic as possible. It really depends on how much skill, experience, and access you have the the proper hand tools. For instance, if you want to have a really good bar, you're going to need tools and experience in welding or a really good design.
Well, the bar isn't too important for me, I can just scrap something together for that. It's more just the arcade dimensions and feel that I want to duplicate. And I also need some good ITG arrow decals. lol
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SoymilkCharlie wrote:
An XBox 360 pad will typically work as a USB pad, but the opposite is not true. Although I can't see why you'd need a 360 pad if you have a USB pad and a good computer with all your fav songs on it.


I don't need a 360 pad. I was just wondering it it worked. (I sometimes am interested in useless information)

I would like to have a bar for my pads...would a wooden bar work?
(I know I would have to reinforce the crap out of it though)
I don't know anything about metal bars or how to make them. What about some kind of piping or something?
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I was looking for arrow graphics and I did find them, but for some reason I didn't want to use them. idk, it just seemed too familiar so I was making my own arrow outline (I made 2) and i don't know which one to use.

This one: http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/darkdax/Note1.jpg

Or

This one: http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/darkdax/Note2.jpg

Which one should I use and what color?

EDIT:nvm, I chose the first one.
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AJAX. wrote:
SoymilkCharlie wrote:
An XBox 360 pad will typically work as a USB pad, but the opposite is not true. Although I can't see why you'd need a 360 pad if you have a USB pad and a good computer with all your fav songs on it.


I don't need a 360 pad. I was just wondering it it worked. (I sometimes am interested in useless information)

I would like to have a bar for my pads...would a wooden bar work?
(I know I would have to reinforce the crap out of it though)
I don't know anything about metal bars or how to make them. What about some kind of piping or something?
Yes, a wooden bar would be fine. Think: people use wooden chairs to play, why not wooden bars? I SDG'd Be Lovin using a wooden chair and the DT600 prototype, so I can vouch that a well made wood bar can work well, just think chair.
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Awesome! now I can start making a design (mspaint design lol)
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With the matr1x sensors, do I tape the two pieces together, or do I glue the top bracket to my arrow panel or something?
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DMS wrote:
With the matr1x sensors, do I tape the two pieces together, or do I glue the top bracket to my arrow panel or something?


As long as both mending brackets make contact and complete the circuit it shoulndt matter so yes you could either tape them, or attach them to the panel.

The DJ3 pad screws one of the mending plates on the wooden part of the panel while matr1x design uses electrical/duct tape to hold them together while using the mousepad /piece of carboard as a spacer.

I personally use the eletrical tape and it works great do have to adjust it from time to time though.

Hope that helps and gl E1.gif
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What do you think of the color scheme? (Just a paint picture to get an Idea of what to make graphic-wise)

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/darkdax/TopofPad.jpg?t=1185588489

If anyone else has a different color scheme, please let me know. E1.gif
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i like it, even though i prefer DDR style everything (im a nerd)

anyway, it reminds me a bit of transformers...very good biggrin.gif
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Looks awesome, AJAX. I want to see how that turns out.

Oh, and a little update:

I got the PVC and a dowel today for the DT200. I couldn't get any dowels that fit quite right in the PVC, so I'm going to try a few things and hope something works. I also have the cold cathode bulbs and the frame mostly built. I finished painting the master bedroom of my mom's house yesterday, for which I'm getting $60, which will give me all the remaining funds I need to build the pad.

One question I have is what I should power the lights with.

Inverter specifications:

Input: 12V
Output: 680V
Current draw: 5.0mA

I want to use a power adapter; batteries are something I don't want to have to deal with.

Hopefully some of those lighting gurus can help me here.
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with that small of a current draw, you could power that with pretty much any old 12v dc adapter that you have lying around. It should say right on the adapter how many mA it gives.
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@id:

didn't you say your CCFL's draw 700ma? and I recall reading on a PC case mod site somewhere that they require a beefy power supply because they draw like an amp (1000 ma). I don't know whats the deal with that 5.0ma current draw statement. But the inverter takes a very low voltage (12v) and makes it ridiculously high (600+).... that has to suck up juice, no?

I have a multi-tester, but don't really know much about it. If anyone knows a way to safely test current draw, I'll try it... that would settle this once and for all.

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Ok I think Ive decided to make a homepad by either going with riptides design or http://www.angelfire.com/d20/ddrhomepad/ that one. Do either have any advantages or disadvantages? The only thing I dont have is something showing how to design the matrix sensors. Anyone have a tutorial for that? Instead of using the insides of a controller would it be possible to use the chip from inside my ignition 2.0 pad? That way I could use it on my xbox and ps2? The ignition pad presses arrows randomly and sometimes doesnt recognize the up arrow but that shouldnt be a problem with the chip right? Last question, does anyone know where to find arrow graphics? I cant find ANY. Thanks.
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Using riptides design would it be alright to just use 2x2s instead of 2x4s? I noticed he cuts them in half (vertically) anyways which ends up making it a 2x2.
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I think you just answered your own question
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