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IHYD.Blake
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20.  Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Doesnt matter, I had the score on my vertex screen and apparently it wasnt official. 
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J. S. Mill
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| 21. Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:47 am Post subject: |
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| JasonTheGreater wrote: | | It's a legitimate world record |
No, it isn't. Ryan's 99.24 isn't usual. His run on Pandemonium was personally witnessed by at least five players, myself included, and both pad errors were on a known error at the location he was playing at, which we were able to duplicate (repeatedly) in a tournament later that day. Ryan has also (repeatedly) approached this score. His score is legit.
Put another way: Ryan's score won a tournament. I don't see how it can get more official than that.
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| 22. Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| CEO Nwabudike Morgan wrote: |
Put another way: Ryan's score won a tournament. I don't see how it can get more official than that. |
the other sides argujent is that because the scoor wasnt displayed on the screen it isnt offical reguardless of all the possibly mittigating circumstances
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| 23. Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Exclusive Bonus Track wrote: | | the other sides argujent is that because the scoor wasnt displayed on the screen it isnt offical reguardless of all the possibly mittigating circumstances |
I've never seen that mindset before in the hardcore ITG community. Why should this case be any different?
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Edible Bondage Tape
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| 24. Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| AA Bob wrote: | | Exclusive Bonus Track wrote: | | the other sides argujent is that because the scoor wasnt displayed on the screen it isnt offical reguardless of all the possibly mittigating circumstances |
I've never seen that mindset before in the hardcore ITG community. Why should this case be any different? |
because the person with the picture wants to feel special maybe
i really dont knwo the meta behind it i was mearly explaining the logic to kiba
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JasonTheGreater
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| 25. Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| CEO Nwabudike Morgan wrote: | | JasonTheGreater wrote: | | It's a legitimate world record |
No, it isn't. Ryan's 99.24 isn't usual. His run on Pandemonium was personally witnessed by at least five players, myself included, and both pad errors were on a known error at the location he was playing at, which we were able to duplicate (repeatedly) in a tournament later that day. Ryan has also (repeatedly) approached this score. His score is legit. |
Though this is stupid to bring up to argue about again, I'm not doubting Duk's ability to play Pandemonium. I just said it's not a "legitimate" world record because Duk didn't get a "legitimate" tri-star on it. He corrected pad errors. I got 0 excellents and a pad great on Queen of Light once. That would've been a world record at the time if I had put it in as 100% (which I didn't), but that wouldn't have been a "legitimate" world record since Reboman had a 99.95% or something on it at the time, which was technically higher than the 99.90% that the screen displayed after I got 0 and a great.
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J. S. Mill
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| 26. Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: |
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By this standard, Tyler Ward's 97.8% on Pandemonium over two years ago (which he got by plugging in a keyboard to a hacked cabinet) is 'legitimate' but a score which physically wins the world championships is illegitimate.
That's ridiculous.
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Thelegendofsteve
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| 27. Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| CEO Nwabudike Morgan wrote: | By this standard, Tyler Ward's 97.8% on Pandemonium over two years ago (which he got by plugging in a keyboard to a hacked cabinet) is 'legitimate' but a score which physically wins the world championships is illegitimate.
That's ridiculous. |
I never heard of this. How did he do that? ITG does not accept input from a keyboard plugged in. I added songs to our machine and have done a few other things but I have no idea how he did that. |
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| 28. Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: |
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I beleive what jason is trying to imply is that even though ryan got 2 pad errors and his score would have been well over 99 since the screen dosen't visually show 99 it's not "legimatally" a triple star. Now not to take anything away from ryan because i know for a fact that he could definately get an "official" *** on it no problem its just its obvious where the argument can stem from. In Tylers regard that it was'nt initally known that he used a keyboard on a hacked cabinet. And the reason so many people believed it was because he had played it a decent amount of times and since he at the time was a very high level player people didnt doubt it. Not saying he's still not a very good player but yeah thats my take on the whole matter. Please ryan *** this song so everyone can get back to arguing about everything else
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| 29. Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Thelegendofsteve wrote: |
I never heard of this. How did he do that? ITG does not accept input from a keyboard plugged in. I added songs to our machine and have done a few other things but I have no idea how he did that. |
He hacked it so it would accept keyboard input.
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IHYD.Blake
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| 30. Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| RBCF retunes wrote: | | Thelegendofsteve wrote: |
I never heard of this. How did he do that? ITG does not accept input from a keyboard plugged in. I added songs to our machine and have done a few other things but I have no idea how he did that. |
He hacked it so it would accept keyboard input. |
Wrong. That would work too though
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Thelegendofsteve
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| 31. Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| how long ago was the keyboard thing done? he couldn't have made the game accept it by editing the metrics file because the theme wasn't decrypted until very recently. |
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J. S. Mill
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| 32. Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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I understand Jason's argument Sean, I just think any standard by which obvious hacking comes out as okay but legitimate arbitration isn't cool is retarded.
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IHYD.DukAmok
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| 33. Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Thelegendofsteve wrote: | | how long ago was the keyboard thing done? he couldn't have made the game accept it by editing the metrics file because the theme wasn't decrypted until very recently. |
tyler got a "legitimate" 97.6, as cory said, almost two years ago, back on itg1. i forget exactly how he said he did it, but it certainly involved some form of controller input.
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