How Offsync is VerTex?

videoCWK! · Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:47 am Post subject:

It doesn't seem at all offbeat to me, but according to 32472348 out of 9 people, I never have any idea what I'm talking about.

0rion · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:09 am Post subject:

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It seams fine to me. I play it on itg1 ps2
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Anyone who can't see how badly off-sync Vertex is doesn't know how to FA very well! Or just listen to the music while FAing... Going from like a 99.50% on Mythology to a 97% on Vertex C450 No Mines is NOT COOL. It's so much worse than D2R...

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Tobias Preener · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject:

I do not find Vertex offsync at all.
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IHYD.DukAmok · Trick Member Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Corona, CA

to anyone that disputes the claim that vertex is offsync:

what is your score on it? is it in the top10? i didnt think so.

because i can guarantee all of the top10 players on that song agree that it is pretty offsync. and id be inclined to trust those people, seeing as how theyre pretty familiar with the song.
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0rion · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I suppose if I played ITG 23 hours a day, I'd probably notice the .0003ms difference you seem to be noticing, but as it stands I guess I'll just have to hang my head in shame for only having a star on it instead of a triple star and NOT be completely taken aback by such a minor beat variation.

I'd never DREAM to be as good as you, Duk, but seriously, the generalizations become annoying after awhile. Every time I hear this sort of thing, it always ends with "You're not in the top ten, so you don't know what you're talking about." Seriously, the ego thing really does get old after awhile.

Maybe I'm wrong about the syncing, and maybe my scores aren't as good as yours (or, let's face it, even CLOSE), but that doesn't make me a terrible player. In fact, I'd be more proud of the fact that I can play an off-sync chart and find the beat anyway without it being such a major issue.
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PrayerWarrior35 · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject:

Vertex is indeed offsync, in fact it is one of the most offsync songs in the game, the worse news is that ALL the songs in ITG 1 and 2 are offsync some even worse than Vertex.

0rion · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject:

I guess I took what you said the wrong way. You have my apologies.

And I was just being facetious about the 23 hours a day crack. I know that you have a life outside of ITG. Hope I didn't unintentionally overstep myself when I said that.
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IHYD.Blake · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject:

You guys all know that this thread was made in 2005 right? That frank the tank guy looked at like the 40th page of the In The Groove forum history.

But yes, VerTex is offsync. A hell of a lot better on r16 than any previous update, but its still pretty bad.

And I have a lot more say in it than everybody here. Except Dukamok, he knows his syncings, and we are 2 excellents away from eachother on the song.
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Jewels · Trick Member Joined: 07 Apr 2002 Location: UK | London

Excuse my ignorance, but what makes it so hard to sync correctly? I was under the impression that ITG had correctly synced songs (at least compared to DDR) and the BPM changes in VerTex are discrete enough ... I think.

I always do very badly on the song; I always end up getting Decents and Way Offs. I just assumed it was my inability to adapt to the speed changes though.

Synaesthesia · Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:55 am Post subject:

They're talking about stuff being offsync such that people with good audio timing would get Excellents instead of Fantastics, maybe Greats. Getting Decents and worse is nearly certainly your fault.
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Tobias Preener · Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:29 pm Post subject:

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i have a 99.25 on vertex

and it's DEFINITELY way off.

even on R16 it seems to get progressively later, but then gradually get a tad better toward the end.
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