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#Infinity
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240.  Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| -E- wrote: | I listen to Hybrid long B4 they put their music in ITG 2, music that Ive heard on the radio before..as with other people....hasnt stopped anyone from playing the steps.....
Not to mention Jason Creasey,,Natalie Browne,Evolution,
Most of these people were making music for a while......And who hasn't D-Code on commercials/ cartoons ?
sounds like a pointless arguement to me..... |
None of those songs are poppy radio stuff everyone knows about like Get Busy. And anyway, I'm sure most people have never heard of Machinae Supremacy, Natalie Browne, Nina, etc. unless they live in Sweden, where a good portion of the licensed groups come from. Honestly, those bands are a lot more like the Dancemania songs of ITG, not the Americanized stuff for novices.
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Thomas Hobbes
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| 242. Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| -E- wrote: | P.S. Does anyone know why Sunshine is in both DDR & ITG?  |
They were both licensed by the two companies for their respective dance games.
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| 243. Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| #Infinity wrote: | | Malice of BluR wrote: | | Blue0ctane wrote: | | How about we save the game from shitty licenses? Sounds like a good idea to me. |
I concur. |
Me too. ITG is not for people who want to play songs they always hear on the radio. How many hardcore players do you know who don't despise American licenses with a passion? ITG is for experts. DDR, on the other hand, is better for people who are just getting started and feel more comfortable playing songs they know. You can suggest Lose Control for SuperNova CS, instead. |
Yes, because repetetive trance music (aka k wards aliases), more repetetive trance (e-rotic, etc) and even MORE repetetive trance (aka basically every song on itg) is really good too!
ITG has some of the worst music on any dancing game, period. It's only saving grace is artists like ZigZag, Onyx, and Reflection Theory.
DDR, while having a multitude of awful licensed music and lame trance, at least had some very good music as well, such as many of Naoki's aliases (RevenG, for sure, Naoki Underground, and a little De-Sire). It had some great DJ Taka tracks (.59, absolute, etc) which beat out any ITG track EASILY. People tend to overlook DDR's music now because ITG has "better (harder)" steps.
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Thomas Hobbes
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| 244. Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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The whole selling factor when ITG came out was something to the effect of: a dance game with music you can dance to.
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| 245. Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| dancefreak8 wrote: | ITG2 CS Beta Video
Check out the front end, background changes, weird elongated song wheel, etc.
Discuss. |
Awsome! I've been waiting for at least something like this. Looks great. Looks a little different than I expected but not much. And I also noticed the elongated song wheel, but that could have possibaly been from his wide screen tv. This really gets me excited. I just wonder how official this is. But it must mean they're getting ready to release it cause it looks done to me! What do you guys think?!
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| 247. Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Malice of BluR wrote: | | The whole selling factor when ITG came out was something to the effect of: a dance game with music you can dance to. |
There is plenty you can dance to in DDR.. aka all Naoki feat Paula Terry lolo
Seriously, I like ItG a LOT more that DDR but bashing DDR's music because of a few licenses and praising ItG's is pretty dumb.. whatever
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| 248. Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| IamMe wrote: | Yes, because repetetive trance music (aka k wards aliases), more repetetive trance (e-rotic, etc) and even MORE repetetive trance (aka basically every song on itg) is really good too!
ITG has some of the worst music on any dancing game, period. It's only saving grace is artists like ZigZag, Onyx, and Reflection Theory.
DDR, while having a multitude of awful licensed music and lame trance, at least had some very good music as well, such as many of Naoki's aliases (RevenG, for sure, Naoki Underground, and a little De-Sire). It had some great DJ Taka tracks (.59, absolute, etc) which beat out any ITG track EASILY. People tend to overlook DDR's music now because ITG has "better (harder)" steps. |
You do realize that, because songs are 100% personal preference and can't be argued, that the ability to debate on non-biased grounds HAS to come from something else (in many cases, charts)? I always give people who say they only play for the music very suspicious looks, because I've found that, in my opinion, only a very small minority of songs in any dance game don't sound like crap. Also, when people say "better charts," they don't just mean harder charts. I actually mean better by not having bullshit doublesteps or patterns that don't lead into the correct foot.
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| 249. Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: |
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I have to agree to that. Sometimes a bad chart can just make people decide to avoid the song when they see it. Too much we as fans cannot fix and so much that the dancemania staff need to hear in order to improve the games.
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| 250. Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| Hands R' Us wrote: | Lovin' it already! There's actually an Edit Mode? Totally awesome!!! Now I can make harder edits for songs that are either too easy or have no Expert steps. And it IS for PS2!! I'm getting excited!!!  |
Oh yeah, I didn't notice the editmode the 1st time I watched It! That's awsome! I'M SOOO excited...
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| 251. Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| Marquistadorous wrote: | | Hands R' Us wrote: | | Lovin' it already! There's actually an Edit Mode? Totally awesome!!! Now I can make harder edits for songs that are either too easy or have no Expert steps. And it IS for PS2!! I'm getting excited!!! |
Oh yeah, I didn't notice the editmode the 1st time I watched It! That's awsome! I'M SOOO excited... |
Wow, same here. I'm just so excited to redesign certain stepcharts to suit my likings! I sorely missed Edit Mode in ITG 1 CS! And it even said copyright 2006! Does this mean it's going to be released later this year?
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| 252. Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| Synaesthesia wrote: | | I actually mean better by not having bullshit doublesteps or patterns that don't lead into the correct foot. |
Visible Noise expert is a far worse offender here than any stepchart in DDR. And lets not forget, does anybody actually alternate feet completely during the end of Bouff (a 270 at 200bpm) or Soapy Bubble (a 270 in a 16th cluster).... ITG has your problem too, maybe not as often, but thats simply because there are far less stepcharts. Theres plenty of DDR charts that flow very nicely when done correctly, as with ITG, and same with the opposte.
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| 254. Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:30 am Post subject: |
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I mean bullshit patterns like Daikenkai, Stoic, EotC, etc. The other one is pretty self-explanatory (where the chart just leaves you in the wrong position to do a pattern). I'll take another look at Visible Noise in a few minutes, but I seem to recall just a lot of crossovers.
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| 255. Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Amen to that one. I wonder how many people crossed themselves over just to finish some of these monstrosities.
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| 256. Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:08 am Post subject: |
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The entire galloping part of Visible noise that follows the main synth can not be done with alternating feet unless you want to spin all over the place, and even then, its far tougher to double step than any of the songs you listed from ddr because if you don't plan your double steps right you might end up having to double step a gallop. it's pretty nasty.
not to sure what "easy to tech" means in relation to what we're talking about here, though.... i assume you mean its easy to score but then so would EOTC be. This is just about the total awkwardness of the doublestepping, which Visible Noise wins out of any stepchart I've ever seen.
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| 258. Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:51 am Post subject: |
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If that's the case then I would think "easy to tech" would be a song without any of that stuff, you know, just plain old streams with no turning or anything, a la Disconnected Hyper Hard. On the "difficulty to tech" scale wouldn't VN ex. be about as hard as they come for ITG? You might find it easier, but surely it must be harder than almost any other song in ITG, if not all, to alternate feet entirely.
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