Whats the deal with so-called ten footers?

Synaesthesia · Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject:

Yeah, 5x bag is way too slow for me to score on. Too bad reading 8x is kind of uncomfortable presently.
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Soramaro, First to Dream · Trick Member Joined: 18 Apr 2006

There has to be some easy 10 footers, otherwise there would be no way to break the 10 footer gap. There is a huge difference between a 9 and a 10, and there has to be a couple songs that could go either way. Luckily, Konami put these songs in there to make it easier for people to get better.
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Tyrgannus · Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject:

Well, LoM IS easy to score. It is difficult pass compared to other DDR songs, but once you CAN pass it, you'll find that greats seem uncommon and less frequent than misses.
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Joel Stud?! · Trick Member Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Location: The ILSTU

Ok, no one will listen to me, but just think. Think back to the first time you played all of these charts your arging about.

Let's say that your new to DDR. The last thing you want to do is waste $.75 by picking a song your going to fail. Ratings are there so you know what song s you should be able to pass. So, a beginning should be on ones. Ok. As the songs get harder, so do the foot ratings. Notice that some songs are extremely difficult your first time playing them. Xenon gave me trouble for about 7 or 8 run-throughs before I finally got the rhythym down and could do well on it. G2 gave me trouble for a good while. Sure, after I played them for long enough some got easier, some just became a challenge to PA (but my PA is horrible, so we won't go there).

The fact is, as I said earlier today in the ITG forum; ratings are there to tell you whether or not you can pass the song before you've ever played it. Once you've played it you know how difficult it is, and thus the rating then becomes irrelevant unless you want to brag. Who here DIDN'T have toruble with any of the current 10 footers, or common candidates for 10 footer (currently 9's) such as HVAM, Cartoon Heroes, etc. Those are tough charts, and I could pass every nine before I could pass HVAM, Orion .78, and a few other songs. If I had seen those as rated ten I would have held off and probably could have passed them when I thought I was ready to move up to tens.

So the fact is, if you can pass it, the rating is irrelevant anyways. So why argue? The ratings are there for people that have never played the song before, which means they're not there for most of the people on this site.

Ryu_Hirakashi · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject:

Tweek · Trick Member Joined: 13 Jan 2006

Why does anyone give a poopy? If konami decides to make it a nine, will it be easier or harder? I personally don't read difficulty ratings outside of ITG. I always look at BPM to know if I should use my x1.5 or x2 mod.
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject:

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Across the Nightmare would like to have a word with you.

Amazing proof that Konami can make a 300 BPM 9 footer. Even more amazing is how they didn't get a 10 out of it, but that's for another day.
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Ryu_Hirakashi · Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:19 am Post subject:

In my opinion 10s are supposed to represent the hardest of all difficulty ratings. There isn't supposed to be an "easy" 10. There isn't supposed to be a preperation song. If you want to prepare to play 10s, then go play all the 9s till you are competent at them.

When I play pop'n music, I don't play 39s to "prepare" myself for 39s. I play 38s and 37s.

And to top things off there is no way in hell I'm going to be able to beat a 43 if I can't beat 42s and 41s. Level 43 is supposed to represent the pennicle of difficulty for pop'n music. I'd be pretty dissappointed if a 43 played like a 40.

This is the situation that we have here, Konami is terrible at rating their songs. If you ask me, Roxxor does a much better job in this department. If you happen to play a 10 on ITG, then it is indeed a 10 without a question.

Another thing is that Konami as forgotten how to make DDR challenging. That's why 10s seem to get easier and easier(again, thanks roxxor). As long as they aren't willing to make their 10s harder, then it sort of blends the two diffuclty ranges. The time when bpm dictated difficulty is over(at least for DDR).

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Resolute · Trick Member Joined: 30 May 2005

didnt think this would turn into a mega 3PAGE THREED!

but what if youve mastered all the 9's and yet still fail on 10's
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