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120. PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just think Cartoon Heroes is harder than all 9 footers and easier than one 10-footer.
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121. PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see what you're saying Synaesthesia, and I pretty much agree. I don't say that Days Go By should be a 5-footer (but now that I mention it, it should E15.gif ). However, in my defense, there is only one DDR song I can't pass, PSMO, and I still get tired after doing HVAM. Maybe HVAM shouldn't be a 10-footer at all or CH either because for the majority of people they just don't compare to a true 10-footer stepchart. However, for the world people who progess a little differently like myself, HVAM is more draining than LoM (I didn't say harder, I said more draining)

But, if you think I'm just arguing for arguement sake, I do agree with you.
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122. PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just think Cartoon Heroes is harder than all 9 footers and easier than one 10-footer.


You think Cartoon Heroes is the second hardest song in the game?
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123. PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is atleast the 4th hardest. the others are Sakura, PS and PSM
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124. PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggage wrote:
Creemy▶◀Nougat wrote:
I just think Cartoon Heroes is harder than all 9 footers and easier than one 10-footer.


You think Cartoon Heroes is the second hardest song in the game?


EASIER than ONE 10-footer.
It's around 7 or 8th hardest, as far as stamina+PA combined.
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125. PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Creemy▶◀Nougat wrote:
Baggage wrote:
Creemy▶◀Nougat wrote:
I just think Cartoon Heroes is harder than all 9 footers and easier than one 10-footer.


You think Cartoon Heroes is the second hardest song in the game?


EASIER than ONE 10-footer.
It's around 7 or 8th hardest, as far as stamina+PA combined.


Think about what you just said. EASIER than ONE 10 footer implies it's harder than all 10 footers except one. HARDER than ONE 10 footer is probably what you meant.
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126. PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggage wrote:
Creemy▶◀Nougat wrote:
Baggage wrote:
Creemy▶◀Nougat wrote:
I just think Cartoon Heroes is harder than all 9 footers and easier than one 10-footer.


You think Cartoon Heroes is the second hardest song in the game?


EASIER than ONE 10-footer.
It's around 7 or 8th hardest, as far as stamina+PA combined.


Think about what you just said. EASIER than ONE 10 footer implies it's harder than all 10 footers except one. HARDER than ONE 10 footer is probably what you meant.


...good catch. erm.gif
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127. PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Creemy▶◀Nougat wrote:
Baggage wrote:
Think about what you just said. EASIER than ONE 10 footer implies it's harder than all 10 footers except one. HARDER than ONE 10 footer is probably what you meant.


...good catch. erm.gif


I was getting confused for a little while there. It's strange how replacing 'harder' with 'easier' would imply that the song is more difficult.
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128. PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not that good so what I say prolley doesn't mean much but read neway. I have just entered the realm of being able to pass 10 footers (with c's/d's) and i think so deep is hella harder then most 10 footers. this may sound noobish but i honestly think So Deep is like 1 of the three hardest DDR songs there is next to PSMO and MAXX UNLIMITED (yes i find that song harder then anyother max). Im some1with really good stamina and i get insanly tired doing so deep. As for CH being a 10 footer no. The speed isn't a problem and after a couple of tries u get the hang of the steps easily. Plus it wouldn't fit in with the rest of the 10 footers music wise.
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129. PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Phoenix* wrote:
I'm not that good so what I say prolley doesn't mean much but read neway. I have just entered the realm of being able to pass 10 footers (with c's/d's) and i think so deep is hella harder then most 10 footers. this may sound noobish but i honestly think So Deep is like 1 of the three hardest DDR songs there is next to PSMO and MAXX UNLIMITED (yes i find that song harder then anyother max). Im some1with really good stamina and i get insanly tired doing so deep. As for CH being a 10 footer no. The speed isn't a problem and after a couple of tries u get the hang of the steps easily. Plus it wouldn't fit in with the rest of the 10 footers music wise.


The only 10's I've passed are Bag (mods), Sakura, and recently Max 300. So Deep was the 4th 9-footer i AA'd, and it doesn't tire me out at all. I would imagine you are stomping on the arrows pretty hard to get so tired - try sort of gliding around on the pad, hitting the gallops softly. When you compare So Deep to a song like Exotic Ethnic or HVAM, So Deep barely makes you move at all.

As for the answer to the question, mostly speed (except for Bag, which is unlike any of the other 10s)
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130. PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now i feel like a a total noob disgust.gif
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131. PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry about it, some songs are just harder for some people depending on what they are good at. If you can pass ANY 10 footer you are not a n00b.

Going along with that point, there may be people out there who can pass "harder" 10's and not "easier" 10's. Like I said, it depends on what you're good or bad at.
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132. PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok...so....i dont know if this has been posted yet because i dont feel like looking through this thread....this is my opinion:

a 10-footer tests one of the game's "elements" to the extreme...

this is kinda what i mean....

max 300---stamina...foot speed
maxx unlimited---tech skills...higher foot speed...slight bpm changes
the legend of max---higher foot speed...slight stamina test
max period---extreme bpm changes...ability to read 600bpm...stamina
bag---ability to read really freakin close arrows...ability to time off-sync arrows
sakura---ability to handle large bpm changes...ability to read close arrows
paranoia survivor---stamina...foot speed
psmh---more stamina...more foot speed
psmo---extreme stamina...extreme foot speed...tech skills

all the other garbage except for paranoia respect is just a lame excuse for a 10(g2...outer limits...max 300 super piece of shit...mad blast)
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133. PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BeyondDark wrote:
ok...so....i dont know if this has been posted yet because i dont feel like looking through this thread....this is my opinion:

a 10-footer tests one of the game's "elements" to the extreme...

this is kinda what i mean....

max 300---stamina...foot speed
maxx unlimited---tech skills...higher foot speed...slight bpm changes
the legend of max---higher foot speed...slight stamina test
max period---extreme bpm changes...ability to read 600bpm...stamina
bag---ability to read really freakin close arrows...ability to time off-sync arrows
sakura---ability to handle large bpm changes...ability to read close arrows
paranoia survivor---stamina...foot speed
psmh---more stamina...more foot speed
psmo---extreme stamina...extreme foot speed...tech skills

all the other garbage except for paranoia respect is just a lame excuse for a 10(g2...outer limits...max 300 super piece of shit...mad blast)


Might want to add "Crossover capability" to PS, PSM, and PSMO, though obviously more complicated in PSMO...
Just a thought, lol.
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134. PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mabey alot of arrows.
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135. PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your immense and well thought-out contribution to this thread is deeply appreciated.
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