How does speed work in ITG?

Almost Crimes · Trick Member Joined: 10 Jul 2004

When I play ITG at the arcade, I select a song and it lists a Speed (150) rating. I figure in this case that 150 is the BPM, and selecting 2.0 speed would change it to 300 bpm. However it seems much slower. Choosing C300 seems slower than 300 bpm as well. So how exactly do speed mods work in ITG?
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Rancidfish · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject:

Exactly as you think they do. A song that's 110 BPM (e.g. Anubis) on 3x is exactly the same scroll speed as a song that's 165 BPM (e.g. Delirium) on 2x is exactly the same scroll speed as a song that's 330 BPM (e.g. Pandemonium) on 1x. However, because there isn't a score bar at the bottom of the screen, and because hallway is on by default, ITG speeds do feel slightly slower than DDR speeds. However, the math still works exactly like you expect it to.
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Almost Crimes · Trick Member Joined: 10 Jul 2004

That's odd. I use Overhead, and C300 seemed nothing like Max300 speed. Oh well, thanks.
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Alezay · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:43 am Post subject:

Reenee · Trick Member Joined: 21 Nov 2003

Speed mods DON'T AFFECT THE SPEED OF THE SONG.

This is what I'm getting implied anyway.

Xayro · Trick Member Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Location: Kokomo, IN

The default scroll speed is different for ITG than DDR,
because in ITG, a 300 BPM song scrolls slower because they cramp the arrows more together.
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Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:06 am Post subject:

ITG is like not made for 1xing. In fact ITG2's default speed mod is 1.5x.
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JimTheFly · Staff Member Joined: 22 Jan 2002 Location: Bayonne, NJ

That's true, ITG's scroll speed is different, which can be easily evidenced with Overhead on. A good example is that I'm usually comfortable with scroll speeds on DDR of around 300-350. With ITG, I'm usually in the area of 400-450, and sometimes even more.

Experiment with the speeds, find what's comfortable for you. I'd advise starting off with whatever you feel is the fastest scroll speed for you in DDR and working from there.
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Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:56 pm Post subject:

Yeah, on DDR I can mostly only do 400.

On ITG, C500 is too slow for some songs. It's either I got better on speed reading due to ITG or it is slower. I'm guessing the latter as it seems most likely though.
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Almost Crimes · Trick Member Joined: 10 Jul 2004

Thanks guys. I usually aim for 300-350 BPM on DDR as well, I'll try 500-550 on ITG.
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tac-tics · Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:58 am Post subject:

Whenever you're in doubt, 2.5x is a pretty save bet as long as the song isn't much faster than 200bpm.... or if it has lots of 32nds.
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Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:01 pm Post subject:

J. S. Mill · Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:17 pm Post subject:

I usually use 3, yeah. Pretty safe speed mod. On DDR I tend to use 2 or even 1.5.
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tac-tics · Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:52 pm Post subject:

I too use 3x for most everything, but I still tell most people to use 2.5x.

However, three-ex can be a little too fast for some players to sightread with no bar and this counts doubly so when hands come into play.
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Irish.MTA (Retired?) · Trick Member Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Location: Clemson, SC

I play most of the DDR songlist on 3x. ITG's 4x is the greatest thing since sliced bread as far as I'm concerned. Reading 600-650 BPM on ITG is a cake-walk. Ever tried the Far East Marathon on 4x? So fun.
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madman678 · Basic Member Joined: 05 Apr 2005

Far East on 4x might be fun until sudden turns on and it becomes unreadable

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Soda · Trick Member Joined: 05 Apr 2005

I read 400-500 in DDR, 450-520 in ITG, 680 on keyboard with the default theme, and 800 on keyboard with the ITG2 theme.