Trouble in Groove-land

sherl0k · Maniac Member Joined: 27 Jan 2002 Location: the internet

Haha well you make very legit points but coming from a legal standpoint what's cheapest may not exactly be the most legal. Look at the Megamix and Extreme+ upgrades...
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triad.spacefight · Trick Member Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Location: OKC

*doesn't care who wins so long as there is an arrow stomping game nearby.*

*also won't pretend to be a lawyer*

That being said, we all knew it was coming.

Speculation is the mother of bad rumors. So I'm just sitting back and waiting. It's not like Arcade Owners are just going to immediately gut and start selling the Cabinets because of this.

Extreme and ITG both will stay in your local AC, and they are not going to go anywhere anytime soon because of one little lawsuit.
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Xatu23456 · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:

I've been waiting for this moment for so long...

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Sk37ch · Trick Member Joined: 02 May 2004

LET ME SHOW YOU THEM · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject:

Bemani Dog · Trick Member Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, FL

DDR is doomed in North America.

They won their lawsuits against Andamiro, and actually gave them the concession never to sell another arcade machine in North America.

I'm willing to bet this time DDR gives up rights to sell home versions in North America when they win.

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Bemani Dog · Trick Member Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, FL

I'm also willing to bet Andamiro counter-sues Konami based on their agreement, claiming Konami has no rights to the North American arcade market.
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Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

Wolfman Jake · Trick Member Joined: 13 Sep 2002

Why does NO ONE ever learn? There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Konami, who WON their lawsuit against Andamiro, gave up their distribution rights to DDR in North America. There is an actual reason why Konami doesn't distribute DDR in North American arcades: they have no North American Arcade Division anymore. Period. Konami will only make the effort to release more DDR arcades versions in North America IF they are convinced it would make them enough profit over and above that which they make selling only on the home market here. THINK people, THINK!

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Cutriss beat me to it, of course. I think his nose must be attuned specifically to Konami vs. Andamiro BS

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Obsessive · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject:

Retrofitting DDR cabinets with USB slots was a bad idea, and I am pretty sure this is the official complaint, though the effects of the injunction could include getting roXor out of business and possibly forcing ITG to become an Andamiro franchise, which would lead to very interesting legal situations in the future.
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epilonious · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:

myuglybunny · Trick Member Joined: 14 Oct 2004

HAHA
Thats funny... Anywho, If Andamiro did acquire ITG I dont think Konami would take on Andamiro agian... Or would they... dun dun dun

Also I hope this dosnt get the upcomming Guitar Hero game in hot water ether... AND I KNOW THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HOME VERSON ... just thinking outloud... on forums

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Char · Trick Member Joined: 30 Apr 2004

This thread makes me want to punch people. Not this thread's topic, the thread.

myuglybunny · Trick Member Joined: 14 Oct 2004

IHYD.Blake · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:45 pm Post subject:

If Konami didnt want anyone copying their idea for dancing games, they shouldve gotten off their asses and made a new one themselves.
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Turboneko · Trick Member Joined: 28 Jan 2002

And here is when all the fanboys from each market come out to squeal about roxor's creativity being limited or konami wanting to stay on top of the dance game tower of quarter munching and stealing 17 year olds paychecks.

The whole thing I want to know is how does Red Octane fit into this. Technically can't they be linked in with Roxor due to publishing the home version of this?
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Light_373 · Trick Member Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Location: Chicago

If anything, worst case is that Konami gives ITG an ultamatium if they win to basically kill the ITG arcade versions.

myuglybunny · Trick Member Joined: 14 Oct 2004

...DDR was launched in Japan in October 1998 and thereafter became a worldwide success. With its launch, DDR actually created the entire category of dance simulation arcade games. The home-version DDR game has also become an international success...

Hmm Dosnt ITG sound like just another "dance simulation game"

Just like PIU, EZ2dancer, Technomotion(Hey, that reminds me of the Stepmania logo...)

Actually Techno Motion is closer to DDR than In the Groove in my opinion, It has Greats and Perfects, The arrows look dangerously like DDR arrows, Even the bar is ALMOST the same... hmm sounds funny that they sue In the groove when there are others that have closer graphic designs. BUT I do give credit to Konami, They are using DDR machines and using OpenSorce software thats basicly labled as a DDR clone.
They have the right to file a suit, I could file a lawsuit to Konami for being "Evil" and not making a new arcade mix if I wanted to right now. But that dosnt mean that its going to do anything. That would be silly. As in RoXors case I cant tell whats going to happen.

All I know is that I hope RoXor and Konami can both have games at the same time, for "friendly competition"

Mabie Konami is making a new mix, mabie they arnt.
Oh well just hope Im not stuck with Extreme for too long... If i hear graduation ONE MORE TIME!
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