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cata-tonic Trick Member

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1480. Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Wow, that along with the 6 month warranty has pretty much convinced me to go with the RO pad over the ngult pad. I just got word back from ngult that his pad comes with no manufactor's warranty, only the 14 day money back guarentee that he provides on damaged pads (but since he doesn't cover shipping, I would be spending $180 in shipping to send it back and get a new one, no thank you).
Thanks for the help guys, I should be ordering my RO pad within the next couple of weeks, I'll let you know how I like it when I get it in!  |
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vsamaco Trick Member

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1481. Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:44 am Post subject: |
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cata-tonic wrote: | Wow, that along with the 6 month warranty has pretty much convinced me to go with the RO pad over the ngult pad. I just got word back from ngult that his pad comes with no manufactor's warranty, only the 14 day money back guarentee that he provides on damaged pads (but since he doesn't cover shipping, I would be spending $180 in shipping to send it back and get a new one, no thank you).
Thanks for the help guys, I should be ordering my RO pad within the next couple of weeks, I'll let you know how I like it when I get it in!  |
I thought RO had the 60 day warranty and the 15% restocking fee...
I'm pretty sure the ebay pad and RO will last for atleast the 2 months of the warranty w/o breaking, given that you maintain them properly. I guess more safe than sorry for more money  |
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cata-tonic Trick Member

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1482. Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Whoops, I meant that the RO comes with a 60 day warranty and the ngult pad comes with only a 14 day warranty (plus shipping). I'm sure either pad would last well beyond the warranty, but I'm just afraid of getting a lemon from ngult and having to shell out $180 to get it replaced. I think the $40 extra I will pay for the RO is worth it for the piece of mind of having a more solid warranty, cheaper shipping in case of a return, and better contacts beneath the buttons. |
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cata-tonic Trick Member

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1483. Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: RO pads |
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vsamaco wrote: | cata-tonic wrote: |
Has it been confirmed that the latest RO pads have sheet metal contacts under their buttons? If not is there a way I can contact RO to ask them about this?
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June 29, 2004
yumbrad wrote: | I just ordered two RedOctane pads, and they did not need to be modded. I opened them both up, and they both use steel sheets rather than foil. They work well, although it seems I fail to trigger the back arrow sometimes when I step near the bottom of it... perhaps this'll just train me to step near the middle, which is good I suppose. |
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Here is an email exchange between a RO support rep and myself (excellant response time btw):
I am interested in buying your Metal Pad, but have one question. I've heard rumors that your pad now has sheet metal contacts underneath all of its buttons, is this true? If not, what is the contact made of?
Thanks,
Marc
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Hello Marc,
That is a rumor indeed. We do not use sheet metal as the contact surface. In fact it is a highly flexible, high polish surface thin metal that is very durable and very responsive.
Thank you for choosing RedOctane!
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Is this material the same as the foil that other pads use as contact material?
Thanks,
Marc
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Hello Marc,
if you're speaking about the Foil tape, no. No Foil at all. It is a much more durable, flexible metal for the contact material.
Thank you for choosing RedOctane!
It looks like the RO won't require the metal contact mod, good news.
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Slothboy Basic Member

Joined: 29 Jun 2004
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1484. Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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I've been reading these posts and looking online for the best metal pad. I'm prepared to spend however much money I need for a metal pad. CF pads seems to be one of the favs, but its not a 3" pad. I dont know for sure, but I figure that a 3" pad would be better than 1.5", of course i could be completely wrong. I just want a pad that will last me atleast 2 or 3 years, Im sick of wasting money on crappy pads. So if Ive got the money to spend, what really is the BEST pad. |
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ProdigySim Trick Member


Joined: 19 May 2004 Location: 127.0.0.1 |
1485. Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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If you don't care about money, you should probably just go for the CF.
Everybody pretty much agrees that they are the best ones....
Otherwise, it's sounding like the RedOctane metal pad is very good. |
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vsamaco Trick Member

Joined: 08 Mar 2004
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1486. Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Slothboy wrote: | I've been reading these posts and looking online for the best metal pad. I'm prepared to spend however much money I need for a metal pad. CF pads seems to be one of the favs, but its not a 3" pad. I dont know for sure, but I figure that a 3" pad would be better than 1.5", of course i could be completely wrong. I just want a pad that will last me atleast 2 or 3 years, Im sick of wasting money on crappy pads. So if Ive got the money to spend, what really is the BEST pad. |
If your an avid DDR'er and have the money a CF is for you. If you don't have the money or don't play as much, go for an RO. The thickness of the pad doesn't necessarily reflect the durability of the pad. The 3" thickness are for the pads that have a bar and need extra space for weight. |
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ProdigySim Trick Member


Joined: 19 May 2004 Location: 127.0.0.1 |
1487. Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Bah, well, I got my pad, and it turned out the be the BNS pad. (no bar)
Are there any mods needed? |
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vsamaco Trick Member

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1488. Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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ProdigySim wrote: | Bah, well, I got my pad, and it turned out the be the BNS pad. (no bar)
Are there any mods needed? |
Does the pad have aluminum strips underneath the arrow? If so, do the sheet metal mod.
Where did you get the pad? ebay? |
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ProdigySim Trick Member


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1489. Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I think there's aluminum strips... but there's an buttocks of alot of foam under each arrow, too. And, with it being only 1.5" thick, I don't see how I can fit any thing between the arrow and the foam.
Just a sec, I'll take a picture.
There:
http://ohtheirony.com/fun/ddr/underarrowsmall.jpg
(big version at http://ohtheirony.com/fun/ddr/underarrow.jpg )
I can't really tell if I need anything or not...
And, by the way, I've been playing with socks on only, and from the way white powder is appearing on the arrows, I think they're acrylic. I got ripped off. Not sure, though.
EDIT: Also, the receptors on the base of the pad seem to have finger prints on them... what should I use to clean those? |
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vsamaco Trick Member

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1490. Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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ProdigySim wrote: | Yeah, I think there's aluminum strips... but there's an buttocks of alot of foam under each arrow, too. And, with it being only 1.5" thick, I don't see how I can fit any thing between the arrow and the foam.
Just a sec, I'll take a picture.
There:
http://ohtheirony.com/fun/ddr/underarrowsmall.jpg
(big version at http://ohtheirony.com/fun/ddr/underarrow.jpg )
I can't really tell if I need anything or not...
And, by the way, I've been playing with socks on only, and from the way white powder is appearing on the arrows, I think they're acrylic. I got ripped off. Not sure, though.
EDIT: Also, the receptors on the base of the pad seem to have finger prints on them... what should I use to clean those? |
Dry cloth, nothing wet. To clean metal, use the a brillo pad.
The sheet metal is very thin if you get the higher gauges. It's very necessary because the foil will break down and may cause short circuits, leading to internal damaging. My pad has the same internal setup and the sheet metal fit w/o any problem. |
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Jopo Basic Member

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1491. Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:36 pm Post subject: whitch method is better |
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i have looked at both of these tutoirals
http://www.digitaltorque.com/mydancepad/
(this guy has weather stripping between a piece of sheet metal behind the plexiglass and little mending brackets, 2 for each side of button, on each side of the button is one bracket with voltage from controll, and the bracket beside it is the bround, and when the metal touches it in creats the signal)
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http://www.angelfire.com/d20/ddrhomepad/
(this guy just has two pieces of sheetmetal with weatherstripping in between, one piece is ground, the other is voltage, when they touch, they make the signal)
whitch one of these methods is better?
how thick should the plexiglass be?
and what kind of weather stripping should i use?
help is appreciated, and i will have pics and movies when i am finished. thanks |
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LifeOdaParty Trick Member

Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Location: alabama... aka - DDR hell |
1492. Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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I bought 2 mymybox metal pads 2 years ago and they are finally about ready to go. If you maintain metal pads correctly, they should last you as long as you are willing to fiddle with them.
I play heavy 10 footers often on these pads (like multiple times every session which is every day).
I think that I will get the 89 dollar ones from ebay because they are similar to the mymybox pads that i have kept up for 2 years now. I feel that I dont want to pay 300 dollars for a CF pad that I really doubt will last me more than 3 times what this cheap one will.
It says poly-carbon panels which is good, i have broken a few of the acrylic on the mymybox pads and made replacements out of stuff i got at lowes called lucite. And I will do the sheet metal mod cause the aluminum tape stuff is such a pain (you really have to clean the insides of the pad like once a month with those).
Anyway, do you all think that this is a good idea going for the cheap ebay metal pads? _________________
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vsamaco Trick Member

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1493. Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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LifeOdaParty wrote: | I bought 2 mymybox metal pads 2 years ago and they are finally about ready to go. If you maintain metal pads correctly, they should last you as long as you are willing to fiddle with them.
I play heavy 10 footers often on these pads (like multiple times every session which is every day).
I think that I will get the 89 dollar ones from ebay because they are similar to the mymybox pads that i have kept up for 2 years now. I feel that I dont want to pay 300 dollars for a CF pad that I really doubt will last me more than 3 times what this cheap one will.
It says poly-carbon panels which is good, i have broken a few of the acrylic on the mymybox pads and made replacements out of stuff i got at lowes called lucite. And I will do the sheet metal mod cause the aluminum tape stuff is such a pain (you really have to clean the insides of the pad like once a month with those).
Anyway, do you all think that this is a good idea going for the cheap ebay metal pads? |
A CF, I think, will last you (as in not permanently not break) as long as you play DDR. If your breaking metal pads at a very fast rate, then a CF would be ideal for you, but I don't think thats your case.
What actually broke on your previous pads? Maybe I can see if ebay pads or non-mymybox build will fit you... Cause the latest pads are made of a wooden base with a metal frame that prob a lil more durable. As for if RO or BNS pads are better than ebay, I would say no... well the ebay pads with polycarbon arrows. They are basically the same pad with different labels. |
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HitokiriX Trick Member


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1494. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:45 am Post subject: |
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hey i got a question:
if the arrow panels on a DDR pad have gaps between each other does it damage the pad in any way? i can see the foam in some places on my Judysdeals pad. i was expecting it to happen though cuz its from EBay and anything from ebay can't be perfect....but i'm wonderin will that cause any damage to it later on? |
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HitokiriX Trick Member


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1495. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:50 am Post subject: |
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hey i got a question:
if the arrow panels on a DDR pad have gaps between each other does it damage the pad in any way? i can see the foam in some places on my Judysdeals pad. i was expecting it to happen though cuz its from EBay and anything from ebay can't be perfect....but i'm wonderin will that cause any damage to it later on? |
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vsamaco Trick Member

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1496. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:14 am Post subject: |
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HitokiriX wrote: | hey i got a question:
if the arrow panels on a DDR pad have gaps between each other does it damage the pad in any way? i can see the foam in some places on my Judysdeals pad. i was expecting it to happen though cuz its from EBay and anything from ebay can't be perfect....but i'm wonderin will that cause any damage to it later on? |
I have that happening to my left arrow, but I don't see any damage from it yet. If any damage is happening, its probably to the arrows and not the pad. I'd try your best to secure the panels so it isn't moving all over the place. |
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woofinator Basic Member


Joined: 06 Jul 2004 Location: El Paso TX |
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ddrcracker Basic Member

Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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1498. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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ive got a judydeals pad and i was wondering if i could buy/make/mod a controller box to work with xbox. the controler box that came with my pad is made by cypher games and its for the ps2. if anyone could help me out it would be much appreciated as i would love to try out ultramix. |
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LifeOdaParty Trick Member

Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Location: alabama... aka - DDR hell |
1499. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Actually nothing broke on my pads. I just recently had to put about 2-3 hours maintanance into them to fix some random misses that were popping up.
The reason that I need new pads is that my mom plays ddr and I am going to my second year of college and she wants to keep the current pads. But I need my own pads too.
I just want to know if anybody has had any dead on arrival pads from this discount-auction seller on ebay with all of the 89.95 metal pads with poly-carbon steps. Cause I can fix most things but I dont want to have to rewire or re-solder the electronics on pads.
I am amazed at how long the mymybox pads have lasted and they are still truckin along. I even use them on carpet, and yes they are bent badly, but no it doesnt affect gameplay at all, it just looks bad. And I had some cracked panels cause of the underneath screw problem, but i replaced those panels with lucite from lowes.
Anyway, just wondering if there had been any DOA pads from that seller.
Ps. ddrcracker-- look on the redoctane site, they sell control boxes for x box that should work. _________________
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